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Bordeaux 2009
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dyingromeo
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Re: Bordeaux 2009
weinfreudige Grüße
Christian
"Even a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step"
Christian
"Even a journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step"
Re: Bordeaux 2009
Ähnlich wie das 2005 der Fall war, alle tendenziell
am unteren Ende der Fassnoten angesiedelt, was
für mich eine "politische" und keine "reale" Bewertung
wäre...
am unteren Ende der Fassnoten angesiedelt, was
für mich eine "politische" und keine "reale" Bewertung
wäre...
Grüsse weinfex
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dazino
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Re: Bordeaux 2009
Hallo zusammen
Hier noch die Bewertungen von Vinum ab 17.0 Punkte für Pomerol und Saint Emilion:
17.0 Punkte:
Château Le Gay
Château Nenin
Château Providence
Château Trotte Vieille
Château Valandraud
Château Beau Séjour Bécot
Château Beauregard
Château Cadet Piola
Château de Pressac
Château Fonroque
Château Larcis Ducasse
Château Larmande
Château Mazeyres
Château Pavie Macquin
17.5 Punkte:
Château Belair Monange
Château L'Evangile
Château Petit Village
Château Canon
Château Certan de May de Certan
18.0 Punkte:
Château L'Arrosée
Château Beauséjour Duffau Lagarosse
Château Feytit Clinet
Château Gazin
Château La Fleur Pétrus
Clos du Clocher
19.0 Punkte:
Château Trotanoy
Château Figeac
Château La Conseillante
Vieux Château Certan
19.5 Punkte:
Château Cheval Blanc
20.0 Punkte:
Château Pétrus
Château Ausone
Die Bewertungen sind für Vinum doch recht hoch. Im nächsten Heft folgen die left banks, deren Spitze besonders breit sein soll.
Gruss
David
Hier noch die Bewertungen von Vinum ab 17.0 Punkte für Pomerol und Saint Emilion:
17.0 Punkte:
Château Le Gay
Château Nenin
Château Providence
Château Trotte Vieille
Château Valandraud
Château Beau Séjour Bécot
Château Beauregard
Château Cadet Piola
Château de Pressac
Château Fonroque
Château Larcis Ducasse
Château Larmande
Château Mazeyres
Château Pavie Macquin
17.5 Punkte:
Château Belair Monange
Château L'Evangile
Château Petit Village
Château Canon
Château Certan de May de Certan
18.0 Punkte:
Château L'Arrosée
Château Beauséjour Duffau Lagarosse
Château Feytit Clinet
Château Gazin
Château La Fleur Pétrus
Clos du Clocher
19.0 Punkte:
Château Trotanoy
Château Figeac
Château La Conseillante
Vieux Château Certan
19.5 Punkte:
Château Cheval Blanc
20.0 Punkte:
Château Pétrus
Château Ausone
Die Bewertungen sind für Vinum doch recht hoch. Im nächsten Heft folgen die left banks, deren Spitze besonders breit sein soll.
Gruss
David
Re: Bordeaux 2009
Jeff Leve zu Margaux. Vielleicht müssen wir in europaische und amerikanische Bewertungen unterscheiden?
The following wines were tasted at the UGCB tasting in Los Angeles.
2009 d’Angludet – Medium bodied and light in style, there is more going on with the earthy, floral, fresh cherry aromatics than the palate. 88 Pts
2009 Brane Cantenac – With an inviting perfume filled with wet earth, blackberries, black cherry, smoke, spice and floral notes, this medium bodied Margaux is refined, supple and elegant. The wine finishes with ample layers of fresh, black and red fruits. Give it a few year to flesh out. 93 Pts
2009 Cantenac Brown – It’s always nice to be surprised when you discover a wine has turned out much better than you originally anticipated. This delicious Margaux offers licorice, earth, cassis, spice and truffles, With rich supple textures, concentrated layers of juicy ripe fruit and freshness, this is a winner. 93 Pts
2009 Desmirail – With an earthy, coffee, red and black fruit nose, this medium bodied wine, produced from a blend of 70% Cabernet Sauvignon, 30% Merlot felt light on the palate. The wine ends with a bright, red plum finish. 88 Pts
2009 Ferriere – With an herb, earth and cassis nose, this medium bodied, soft textured blend of 58% Cabernet Sauvignon, 40% Merlot and 2% Cabernet Franc is a lighter, red fruit dominated style of Margaux wine that will drink well young. 88 Pts
2009 Giscours – Truffle, tobacco, cassis, black raspberry and forest floor notes produce the complex perfume. The blend of 55% Cabernet Sauvignon, 40% Merlot and 5% Cabernet Franc creates layers of deep, long waves of voluptuously textured, dark chocolate covered, fresh black cherries. 93 Pts
2009 Kirwan – The blend of 57% Cabernet Sauvignon, 17% Merlot and equal parts Petit Verdot and Cabernet Franc produced a wine that opens with licorice, cocoa, smoke and aromas of fresh dark berries. The medium/full bodied, wine ends with chocolate covered, black raspberries. 91 Pts
2009 Labegorce – From a blend of 50% Cabernet Sauvignon, 35% Merlot, 8% Petit Verdot and 7% Cabernet Franc, the wine opens with espresso, boysenberry and earthy aromas. This leads to a lively, fresh, soft textured, medium bodied Margaux wine. Better than previous vintages, (and the 2010 is even better) with a new owner and a firm commitment to producing the best wines possible from their terroir, you can expect good things in the future from Labegorce, which fortunately for consumers, remains a well priced Margaux wine. 89 Pts
2009 Lascombes – With noticeable oak, licorice, jam, smoke and ripe, black and blue fruits, this rich, concentrated, supple wine, produced from a blend of 48% Cabernet Sauvignon, 48% Merlot and 4% Petit Verdot ends with a rich, chocolate coated, blackberry, coffee and licorice finish. I like the wine. But I’d like to see a little less oak. 92 Pts
2009 Marquis de Terme – Coffee bean, earth, black raspberry and spicy plum aromas create the aromatics. Suave and round in texture, the round wine, from an assemblage of 60% Cabernet Sauvignon 34% Merlot and 6% Petit Verdot, finishes with a long, fresh, ripe, concentrated layer of dark cherries. 90 Pts
2009 Prieure-Lichine – Black licorice, truffle, fresh brewed espresso, floral, blackberry and plum scents open up the wine. With silky tannins and soft round textures, the wine ends with a rich, long, fresh, pure wave of ripe, dark fruits. 93 Pts
2009 Rauzan-Gassies – From a blend of 75% Cabernet Sauvignon, 23% Merlot and 2% Petit Verdot, the wine opens with blackberry, pepper, earth and forest smells. Medium/full bodied and slightly rustic in its traditional approach, some tasters might like this more than others. 88 Pts
2009 Rauzan-Segla – Once past the label, this stunning Margaux has it all going on! From a blend of 68% Cabernet Sauvignon and 32% Merlot, this delicious, sexy textured woine features layers of juicy ripe, opulent, pure berries. The wine has depth, concentration and freshness. The perfume grabs your attention with its floral, spice, truffle, stone and cassis scents, this is a serious Margaux that will age and develop for decades. This is the best young Rauzan Segla I have ever tasted! Although, the 2010 will give it a run for the money, in a different style. 96 Pts
2009 du Tertre – This is another 2009 Bordeaux that has fleshed out and improved since it was first tasted back in April, 2010. Licorice, coffee blackberry and plum aromas lead to a fresh, ripe, sensuous, well priced Margaux wine that was produced from a blend of 55% Cabernet Sauvignon, 22% Merlot, 15% Cabernet Franc and 8% Petit Verdot. 90 Pts.
The following wines were tasted at the UGCB tasting in Los Angeles.
2009 d’Angludet – Medium bodied and light in style, there is more going on with the earthy, floral, fresh cherry aromatics than the palate. 88 Pts
2009 Brane Cantenac – With an inviting perfume filled with wet earth, blackberries, black cherry, smoke, spice and floral notes, this medium bodied Margaux is refined, supple and elegant. The wine finishes with ample layers of fresh, black and red fruits. Give it a few year to flesh out. 93 Pts
2009 Cantenac Brown – It’s always nice to be surprised when you discover a wine has turned out much better than you originally anticipated. This delicious Margaux offers licorice, earth, cassis, spice and truffles, With rich supple textures, concentrated layers of juicy ripe fruit and freshness, this is a winner. 93 Pts
2009 Desmirail – With an earthy, coffee, red and black fruit nose, this medium bodied wine, produced from a blend of 70% Cabernet Sauvignon, 30% Merlot felt light on the palate. The wine ends with a bright, red plum finish. 88 Pts
2009 Ferriere – With an herb, earth and cassis nose, this medium bodied, soft textured blend of 58% Cabernet Sauvignon, 40% Merlot and 2% Cabernet Franc is a lighter, red fruit dominated style of Margaux wine that will drink well young. 88 Pts
2009 Giscours – Truffle, tobacco, cassis, black raspberry and forest floor notes produce the complex perfume. The blend of 55% Cabernet Sauvignon, 40% Merlot and 5% Cabernet Franc creates layers of deep, long waves of voluptuously textured, dark chocolate covered, fresh black cherries. 93 Pts
2009 Kirwan – The blend of 57% Cabernet Sauvignon, 17% Merlot and equal parts Petit Verdot and Cabernet Franc produced a wine that opens with licorice, cocoa, smoke and aromas of fresh dark berries. The medium/full bodied, wine ends with chocolate covered, black raspberries. 91 Pts
2009 Labegorce – From a blend of 50% Cabernet Sauvignon, 35% Merlot, 8% Petit Verdot and 7% Cabernet Franc, the wine opens with espresso, boysenberry and earthy aromas. This leads to a lively, fresh, soft textured, medium bodied Margaux wine. Better than previous vintages, (and the 2010 is even better) with a new owner and a firm commitment to producing the best wines possible from their terroir, you can expect good things in the future from Labegorce, which fortunately for consumers, remains a well priced Margaux wine. 89 Pts
2009 Lascombes – With noticeable oak, licorice, jam, smoke and ripe, black and blue fruits, this rich, concentrated, supple wine, produced from a blend of 48% Cabernet Sauvignon, 48% Merlot and 4% Petit Verdot ends with a rich, chocolate coated, blackberry, coffee and licorice finish. I like the wine. But I’d like to see a little less oak. 92 Pts
2009 Marquis de Terme – Coffee bean, earth, black raspberry and spicy plum aromas create the aromatics. Suave and round in texture, the round wine, from an assemblage of 60% Cabernet Sauvignon 34% Merlot and 6% Petit Verdot, finishes with a long, fresh, ripe, concentrated layer of dark cherries. 90 Pts
2009 Prieure-Lichine – Black licorice, truffle, fresh brewed espresso, floral, blackberry and plum scents open up the wine. With silky tannins and soft round textures, the wine ends with a rich, long, fresh, pure wave of ripe, dark fruits. 93 Pts
2009 Rauzan-Gassies – From a blend of 75% Cabernet Sauvignon, 23% Merlot and 2% Petit Verdot, the wine opens with blackberry, pepper, earth and forest smells. Medium/full bodied and slightly rustic in its traditional approach, some tasters might like this more than others. 88 Pts
2009 Rauzan-Segla – Once past the label, this stunning Margaux has it all going on! From a blend of 68% Cabernet Sauvignon and 32% Merlot, this delicious, sexy textured woine features layers of juicy ripe, opulent, pure berries. The wine has depth, concentration and freshness. The perfume grabs your attention with its floral, spice, truffle, stone and cassis scents, this is a serious Margaux that will age and develop for decades. This is the best young Rauzan Segla I have ever tasted! Although, the 2010 will give it a run for the money, in a different style. 96 Pts
2009 du Tertre – This is another 2009 Bordeaux that has fleshed out and improved since it was first tasted back in April, 2010. Licorice, coffee blackberry and plum aromas lead to a fresh, ripe, sensuous, well priced Margaux wine that was produced from a blend of 55% Cabernet Sauvignon, 22% Merlot, 15% Cabernet Franc and 8% Petit Verdot. 90 Pts.
„Es war viel mehr.“
Johnny Depp dementiert, 30.000 Dollar im Monat für Alkohol ausgegeben zu haben. (Quelle: „B.Z.“)
Johnny Depp dementiert, 30.000 Dollar im Monat für Alkohol ausgegeben zu haben. (Quelle: „B.Z.“)
Re: Bordeaux 2009
Hallo David,dazino hat geschrieben:Hallo zusammen
Hier noch die Bewertungen von Vinum ab 17.0 Punkte für Pomerol und Saint Emilion:
17.0 Punkte:
Château Le Gay
Château Nenin
Château Providence
Château Trotte Vieille
Château Valandraud
Château Beau Séjour Bécot
Château Beauregard
Château Cadet Piola
Château de Pressac
Château Fonroque
Château Larcis Ducasse
Château Larmande
Château Mazeyres
Château Pavie Macquin
17.5 Punkte:
Château Belair Monange
Château L'Evangile
Château Petit Village
Château Canon
Château Certan de May de Certan
18.0 Punkte:
Château L'Arrosée
Château Beauséjour Duffau Lagarosse
Château Feytit Clinet
Château Gazin
Château La Fleur Pétrus
Clos du Clocher
19.0 Punkte:
Château Trotanoy
Château Figeac
Château La Conseillante
Vieux Château Certan
19.5 Punkte:
Château Cheval Blanc
20.0 Punkte:
Château Pétrus
Château Ausone
Die Bewertungen sind für Vinum doch recht hoch. Im nächsten Heft folgen die left banks, deren Spitze besonders breit sein soll.
Gruss
David
die Bewertungen sind in der Tat hoch, m.E. aber auch angemessen. Von den in der Liste mir bekannten Weinen ist keiner dabei, den ich nicht auch als großartig empfunden habe.
Grüße
Hartmut
Re: Bordeaux 2009
Hallo Wolf,innauen hat geschrieben:Jeff Leve zu Margaux. Vielleicht müssen wir in europaische und amerikanische Bewertungen unterscheiden?
Margaux gehört in 2009 nicht zu den Spitzen-Appellationen, insofern überraschen die Jeff Leve- Bewertungen nicht besonders. Warten wir, was er zu Pauillac sagen wird, hier hängt m.E. die Messlatte.
Irritierend finde ich allein die niedrige Bewertung von Ferriere, den ich en primeur sehr gut fand. Ich vermute, bei Vinum werden wir eine ganz andere Einschätzung zu lesen bekommen
(mein Tipp: 17,5 für Ferriere und 18 für Chasse Spleen).Grüße
Hartmut
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dazino
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Re: Bordeaux 2009
Hallo Hartmut
Monbrison bitte nicht vergessen! Ich setze 18.0 Punkte
Gruss
David
Monbrison bitte nicht vergessen! Ich setze 18.0 Punkte
Gruss
David
Re: Bordeaux 2009
Hallo David,
stimmt, den hatte ich vergessen. Aber der ist dieses Jahr wirklich nicht besonders. Ich tippe daher nur auf 17, zum Ausgleich erhält Lacombes 15,5
.
Grüße
Hartmut
stimmt, den hatte ich vergessen. Aber der ist dieses Jahr wirklich nicht besonders. Ich tippe daher nur auf 17, zum Ausgleich erhält Lacombes 15,5
.Grüße
Hartmut
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Mr. Tinte
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Re: Bordeaux 2009
Haut Bailly mit 20/20....Armailhac mit nur 16 und Clerc mit 15.5dazino hat geschrieben:Hallo Hartmut
Monbrison bitte nicht vergessen! Ich setze 18.0 Punkte
Gruss
David
Montrose mit 19/20, Phelan mit 16.5...
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Sollte ich Recht behalten werde ich einen 18 Punkte Moulin Haut Laroque aufmachen...
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Goce
Goce
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Rotundweiss
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Re: Bordeaux 2009
Lafleur, Le Pin. L´Eglise Clinet, Pavie und Clinet nicht im vorderen Feld oder der Unvollständigkeit halber nicht verkostet ?dazino hat geschrieben:Hallo zusammen
Hier noch die Bewertungen von Vinum ab 17.0 Punkte für Pomerol und Saint Emilion:
17.0 Punkte:
Château Le Gay
Château Nenin
Château Providence
Château Trotte Vieille
Château Valandraud
Château Beau Séjour Bécot
Château Beauregard
Château Cadet Piola
Château de Pressac
Château Fonroque
Château Larcis Ducasse
Château Larmande
Château Mazeyres
Château Pavie Macquin
17.5 Punkte:
Château Belair Monange
Château L'Evangile
Château Petit Village
Château Canon
Château Certan de May de Certan
18.0 Punkte:
Château L'Arrosée
Château Beauséjour Duffau Lagarosse
Château Feytit Clinet
Château Gazin
Château La Fleur Pétrus
Clos du Clocher
19.0 Punkte:
Château Trotanoy
Château Figeac
Château La Conseillante
Vieux Château Certan
19.5 Punkte:
Château Cheval Blanc
20.0 Punkte:
Château Pétrus
Château Ausone
Die Bewertungen sind für Vinum doch recht hoch. Im nächsten Heft folgen die left banks, deren Spitze besonders breit sein soll.
Gruss
David